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| Thursday, May 18, 2006
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salman
Joined:6/5/2006
Location:MIAMI, FL
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| How old does a dog have to be in order to be used as a stud?
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| Monday, May 22, 2006
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whitepeach_kiwi
Joined:5/22/2006
Location:OLIVEHURST, CA
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| As soon as the testies drop at about 8 to 9 mo, but you might want to wate until he is a little older .
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| Monday, May 22, 2006
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salman
Joined:6/5/2006
Location:MIAMI, FL
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| thank you for your reply, we have a few shephards I hope the type of breed does not matter as to what age we can use him as a stud
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| Wednesday, May 24, 2006
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NoSmo
Joined:5/24/2006
Location:ARVADA, CO
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| A dog should by all rights be at least two years of age before being used as a stud. A female and male grow until two years of age, and it is wise to allow the dog to behaviorally and healthfully grow into adulthood before breeding. Health clearences should also be done prior to breeding to ensure a healthy litter and sire and dam prior to breeding. Generally the tests cannot be completed prior to two years, so it is wise to wait until testing has been done.
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| Saturday, June 03, 2006
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damblue
Joined:5/26/2006
Location:HERTFORDSHIRE, NONE
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we have a young staffordshire bull terrier born 10/10/05 already he is proving to be a capable stud hes been used twice now
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| Friday, June 23, 2006
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Lakeview_puppies
Joined:6/23/2006
Location:MILFORD, KS
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| He is beautiful, and I have no doubts that he is proving to be capable...he is a teenager after all. By all rights you should wait until he is MINIMUM a year old! Letting him breed prior to that is like letting your 10-14 year old son have sex...a big no no in my book!!! He is a good looking dog though!!
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| Saturday, July 08, 2006
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SWEETVABREEZES2DANES
Joined:6/29/2006
Location:CHESTERFIELD, VA
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MY DANE TURNED 2 YEARS OLD ON THE 10TH OF JUNE, 2006. I HAVE STUDDED HIM 4 TIMES TO 4 DIFFERENT DANES. HE HAS SIRED 42 BEAUTIFUL, HEALTHY PUPPIES AND SEEMS TO BE QUITE COMFORTABLE DURING MATING. HE DIDNT SIRE HIS FIRST LITTER TILL HE WAS 17 MONTHS OLD.
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| Thursday, September 14, 2006
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kioana
Joined:9/4/2006
Location:HYATTSVILLE, MD
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my chi jamoka had his first litter when he was a year on the first try.
he father 6 puppies all brindle
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| Saturday, September 16, 2006
at10:32:54 AM
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rainbeaur6
Joined:8/27/2006
Location:RENTON, WA
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| There are several factors to consider before studding your dog out...
Is he registered? Have you researched his parents grandparents and great-grandparents for health issues? Has he had the appropriate health screenings CERF testing Baer testing and if hip problems are an issue in his breed those tests as well as a Brucellosis screening to make sure he isnt carrying a STD.
Is he a great example of his breed? What is his temprement like? Just because he has the equipment doesnt mean he is a good candidate to pass on his genes.
You should also make sure that the owners of the females have done all of the testing and researching.
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| Monday, December 11, 2006
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Shadomoon
Joined:12/9/2006
Location:WHITAKER, PA
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| I agree. ALL your males should be at least 2 and have ALL health clearances done before breeding.
Puppy lemon laws effect you if you dont... And you also scream puppymill and/or backyard breeder...
Take care all
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| Saturday, February 17, 2007
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springermom0406
Joined:2/17/2007
Location:ULSTER PARK, NY
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| Umm.. dogs male OR female should be at least 2-3 years old before you even THINK of breeding them. You cant do all the proper health testing before 2 years old. Its irresponsible.
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| Thursday, April 05, 2007
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Akards
Joined:4/5/2007
Location:BRIDGEPORT, TX
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We breed Raise and sell Anatolian Shepherds a Large Herd Guardian Which are considered puppies till 2 yrs
We breed after 2 yrs old and recieved positive report from OFA. and Good health cert.
Then we will only breed our females 3 times and never back to back Always a season or 2 of rest and recoupe.
We spay our females after 3 breedings a place them on working ranchs
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| Friday, May 25, 2007
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Drawn2Hymn
Joined:4/26/2007
Location:REDFORD TWP, MI
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Bubba my retired show dog a sweet snow white Matlese is almost 7 years old. He was nearly 5 when we were asked to adopt him. We were told that he enjoys breeding proved that already but that we would have to agree to let him stud for therapy dogs... unofficial as that sounds they insist that many people who need little companion dogs cannot afford them due to the paper work issues high prices of professional breeders. No offense intended.
In no way do I want to be a backyard breeder but I do know of the need for these little sweet hearts - the lonely group homes nursing homes etc. I know from my past experience delivering Wheels On Meals that those who are lonely are often on a fixed budget and paying $400 for a companion dog in one lump sum would be out of the question... keeping up with the vet daily care food can be worked into such a budget.
Getting back to my point is it wrong to offer his services?
He is registered but we have no paper work since the breeder did not want him to be used for a breeding machine profit maker which is one reason why we were seleted to be his forever home- before that he lived in his portable travel kennel from airport to airport to show breed for income.
He did mate with our little black Yorkie Poo once and we have a one year old pup - born Feb. 3 2006. She is 9 pounds now her parents are 6 7 pounds each. She looks like the Maltese Daddy- but a Taffy white. They are all in an HMO plan for dogs at the Banfield Animal Hospital so they get monthly check ups are kept up to date on everything.
We no longer keep him dolled up with the pony tail hair doo long skirt of a coat - puppy cuts the groomer calls it. We renamed him Bibba to help him reclaim his doggy dignity. He is finally free to be a dog. He is gentle not a barker or chewer nor nippy in the least. Perfect companion for me. Every one loves Bubba. And his wife Monkey and thier large little girl Paddington Bear.
If it is appropriate to let him stud what do I need to know how do I go about doing it ethically?
Here is a puppy pix of his daughter when she was just a little one.
Thank you
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| Monday, September 17, 2007
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OhioDane
Joined:9/17/2007
Location:CLEVELAND, OH
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| Possibly the better question would be how do I know IF I should breed my dog rather than at what age. Anyone can breed two dogs regardless of what breed they are or even if they are the same breed. First one must determine if the dog be it male or female has breed type. Meaning do they fit the written AKC standard for what the breed should look like act like move like etc. Also just because your neighbor or your friend thinks it a sweet dog or a pretty dog is NOT a good enough reason. Nor is I just want one of their puppies because I love them so much. If your intention is not preservation of the breed as a whole no preservation of your particular pet doesnt count then you should not breed.
Also if breeding to make money is your intent trust me when I say thats a BAD idea. So get the advice of many responsible and ethical breeders who have bred and shown your breed for many years. Show your dog and let those who have a greater knowledge of your breed tell you if it should be bred. Then get all your health test done. Heart Hips Elbows Eyes Thyroid etc. THEN worry about the breeding end of things and the responsibility of being a stud owner. True responsible stud ownership does not end once the breeding is over.
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| Sunday, September 30, 2007
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Ravenholz
Joined:9/30/2007
Location:POPLAR BLUFF, MO
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OhioDane
I agree with everything that you just said Im new to this site and hope to learn alot But I also work at a Vets ofice and can tell you what happens to alot of the puppies that people breed because they love puppies and just want their kids to see the birth of puppies and my dog is registered and I needed extra money.
I raise German Shpeherds and 2 years after OFA to make sure of No hip or elbow displassaSP is there. And I also do Blood tests to make sure eveything is on tract and most impotant the right temperament. Here is a picture of my Male and one of his Daughters.
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| Monday, October 08, 2007
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Drawn2Hymn
Joined:4/26/2007
Location:REDFORD TWP, MI
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Thank you to all who shared the collective wisdom of experience. I know for a fact that Bubba has breeding qualifications because before agreeing to adopt w/o nueter was skeptical of course I read the health documents and some paperwork declaring him approved by an organization of breeding ethics of some sort. I did not know enough to ask more but I did see his genealology chart trophies ribbon collectionc and the list of champion mates he has studded with.
Monkey our female was way too young to let breed but as i said before ignorance is no excuse but Paddibgton Bear is the love of our lives. We know the breeder of Monkeys parents - they got mixed up at the stud service they hired or whatever it is called and her mom a AKC registered Yorkie somehow got impregnated by a poodle. Now as you know I no nothing about breeding but as far as letting either mate again I will rely on your collective advice. I do think Bubba would do well and if he should have the special tests repeated with our own vet and monkey too I suppose I shall. I do think that both these dogs make great offspring - for those who are not into Pedigree paperwork but more interested in the loving nature behavior of them. I am NOT looking to cash in become a breeder backyard or other wise I just want to uphold my promise to the rescue shelters that recognized the companionship over the monetary value tof these good dog. Its not their fault they needed adopting and it is unfair to expect those who need lesss than champion grade comfort companions. For example I live alone with my brother 56 lives as I provide at home hospice for him head neck throat cancer. Little Paddington doesnt leave his side on his off days and come get me - wakes me up - should he fall or in any other way need my help. She is his gaurdian angel of a dog. Clif would prefer a cat I am ok with that except I am allergic to them. As an aside if anyone knows of a hypo allergenic cat oxymorron maybe please do let me know. Clif always had a cat when he was on his own even taught them to use toilet rather that litter box His doctors suggested a cat of his own and I feel bad for having to deny him that one comfort.
OK this was intended to be a short sweet thanks to all of you. so I will close my mouth sign off with a Big THANK you ALL.
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| Tuesday, October 09, 2007
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Ravenholz
Joined:9/30/2007
Location:POPLAR BLUFF, MO
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| Not to step on any toes BUT dont you think that there is enough dogs with your dogs tempernment in rescue that can be adopted out instead of making more.
And the breeder of you dog was probley a signer of a breeders code of ethics dosent mean you dog had proven himself as a stud dog. His pedigree may have Champions in it doesnt make him one. and why didnt the breeder take this dog back why did he end up in rescue?
ALL dogs and cats leaving a shelter should be spayed/neutered extra litters from shelter animals is what they should be preventing.
Same as people who buy form a pet store IMO I think that ALL pets bought from a PET store should be on a spay/neuter contract IT is a PET store not a SHOW store you will never find a show/breeder quality dog in a pet store.
I work as a VET tech and I see alot of people that think that because their dog has papers they should breed them. You should be trying to improve the breed not make more pet quality litters.
JMObecause I see what I see everydayIs the reason I feel this way.
Thank you for your time
Robin
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| Wednesday, October 10, 2007
at8:12:26 PM
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Drawn2Hymn
Joined:4/26/2007
Location:REDFORD TWP, MI
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| Thank you - I appreciate all your valuable input.
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| Thursday, January 03, 2008
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Boxerrocky
Joined:1/2/2008
Location:PITTSBURGH, PA
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my Man Rocky is a stud at ten months forget all that 2yrs old bull shit he allready is a father of 7
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| Thursday, January 03, 2008
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Drawn2Hymn
Joined:4/26/2007
Location:REDFORD TWP, MI
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In the photo it is hard to determine who is bigger you or your canine
I am saving up enough money to hire a stud. Its $500 a typical price? Thanks again
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| Friday, January 11, 2008
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Shadomoon
Joined:12/9/2006
Location:WHITAKER, PA
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| Boxerrocky you made me laugh. When the puppy buyers that have pups sired by your boy come calling or knocking at the door because their dog has hip and/or eye issues or has epilepsy or a thyroid problem what are you going to tell them?
Sorry I just wanted the money it wasnt his fault blame the mother.
Genetic issues are 50/50. If you boy carries/has them he will either produce it or produce pups that carry it.
Im sure you dont have $1000 per pup $7000 if he produced 7 for lemon law dues? Each state varies some are more than that. Be sure to save that money you got from studding to pay back those puppy buyers in case of issues. That or have your dog neutered. Or you could go to jail or pay huge fines or... Sheesh the laws for Puppy Lemon Laws are really a drag if you just want to make a buck off your dogs sperm.
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| Saturday, January 12, 2008
at7:37:14 PM
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Drawn2Hymn
Joined:4/26/2007
Location:REDFORD TWP, MI
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| When I did have dogs for the lower income pet lovers I home them with adult foster care homes as companions for elderly lonely yet able adults. I never ask more than what it cost me puppy vet portion of stud fee and they must be inspected follow the same guide lines for adopting as do shelters - I use the same forms. They must fix the dog show proof to get back the deposit fee. And I visit them with out notice a few times in the first few months.
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| Sunday, April 20, 2008
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SallyDuke88
Joined:3/12/2008
Location:MEDFORD, OR
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| I find it funny that many people keep talking about AKC like its the greatest thing ever. Did you know that AKC breeders are the largest contributors to puppy mills? Whether the breeder shows or not AKC breeders seem to think that AKC papers raise the value of their dogs...but they REALLY DONT they just make people think that they do.
If you want to know more about the TRUTHS of AKC check out this website
http//www.dogstuff.info/fci_versus_akc_ckc.html
There are GREAT AKC breeders dont get me wrong but there are MANY other AKC breeders who mistreat their breeding females.
Breeding should be about health temperament then conformation... but SO many people have differences of opinion. Understanding your breed and researching the truths about breeding should be the most important thing to do for anyone planning to breed.
As for your question for large and giant breed dogs 18 months old is considered the youngest for both females and males to breed... over 2 years old is the best. Small female dogs such as chihuahuas and cresteds should also wait until at least 18 months but the males are sometimes ready by 1 year old...it really depends on the specific male and really their genetics.
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| Sunday, April 20, 2008
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SallyDuke88
Joined:3/12/2008
Location:MEDFORD, OR
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| No breeder would ever sell what he/she carefully and painfully and lovingly nurtured to a thoughtless or unappreciative person. So why is everybody harping on individual breeders telling them that they are the ones responsible for the breed while ignoring and completely missing the REAL puppy-mill pet-store merchandise problem created by the carelessness and/or incompetence and/or greed of the AKC and CKC along with a majority of veterinarians dog trainers and a few but well established very large puppy mill type breeders? Small individual breeders like me couldnt possibly influence the workings of THAT system in any way.
quote taken from
http//www.dogstuff.info/fci_versus_akc_ckc.html
Everyone stop taking shots at individual breeders just because SOMEONE ELSE wasnt responsible. It is big-time AKC breeders that are stuffing thousands of dogs into the pounds and stuffing millions of dollars into AKCs greedy pockets
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| Sunday, April 20, 2008
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Shadomoon
Joined:12/9/2006
Location:WHITAKER, PA
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| Actually SallyDuke it isnt big time AKC breeders stuffing thousands into shelters. It is Puppymills and BYBs doing this. It doesnt matter what registry they are from
Most of your dogs in shelters ARENT from good breeders that do health testing and show their dogs. They are from BAD breeders who think their dog is pretty and should make puppies.
Do any research you like on this it all comes back the same answer. The best thing to do is NOT breed your dog. Unless of course you plan to show it work it prove its worth as a therepy or service dog or DO somehting with it. NONE of your pets that sit on the couch all day or are your childs best friend should be bred for THAT reason alone. A german shepherd should either be out showing or working to prove it needs to be bred. Also ALL health testing should be done before breeding. This means the dog needs to be 2 in most cases. Males reach maturity at 6-10 months as far as sexually goes and most dogs are not mature mentally until 3-6 yrs old. However bodily they can be mature between 18 months and 5 years.
Just do your research before adding more dogs to the world. It is bad enough we are having this breeding laws cracking down due to bad breeding dont add to the problem good breeders have to clean up after.
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| Sunday, April 20, 2008
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SallyDuke88
Joined:3/12/2008
Location:MEDFORD, OR
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| You missed the point...AKC breeders breed MANY dogs and the puppies that they breed end up being bred also and so less than a couple generations you have hundreds of offsping and many end up at the pound. There are literally MILLIONS of AKC breeders most breed well over 10 females a year.
AKC does not regulate litter amounts and actually encourages larger litters by giving price or fee breaks if you have more than a certain number of puppies. AKC does NOT have any policy requiring health certification...also health certifications can also be forged so literally any dog from any pedigree could be different from what its papers say. You wont find anything I just said on the AKC website by the way...because it is a conflict of interest for their PROFIT-MAKING
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| Sunday, April 20, 2008
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SallyDuke88
Joined:3/12/2008
Location:MEDFORD, OR
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| People are pretty brainwashed by how the media portrays the AKC remember that ABC and other television networks OWN AKC so they would never report the truth about AKCs unethical profit-making because it would be damaging to themselves. Do a little research online and you will be able to find people who are incredibly against AKC. One guy I talked to mentioned some of the AKC breeder kennels he has visited over the years and has seen horrible conditions even in kennels that have dogs that are shown...the breeding females are not necessarily treated the same as the few show dogs u see on tv or the puppies you may be looking online to buy.
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| Sunday, April 20, 2008
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SierraKennels
Joined:4/20/2008
Location:CANTON, OH
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| SallyDuke you couldnt be more wrong. AKC doesnt promote larger litters or bad breeding. They are changing their regulations and code of ethics. They are also cutting back the number of litters registered by a single breeder and YES they do inspect kennels after having so many litters. Your information is wrong. Please no one listen to this zeolet.
I agree with ShadoMoon. I see more and more BADLY bred and HORRIBLE dogs from CKC and APRI and other such registries than I do from AKC.
Yes every registry has bad breeders and AKC cannot be blamed for what their breeders do. They DO have a health organization which is in conjunction with OFA and CERF. AKC isnt the be all end all but so far it is the ONLY registry that has a high level of competition in its sports has an education program for breeders juniors handlers and judges and has a scholarship program that offers great chances for any young person. Not to mention they are talking of allowing mix breeds in performance events have the highest quality standards and promote good breeding.
Im sorry SallyDuke your facts arent straight and if you have something against AKC take it up with them. But dont throw your lies around here. Bad breeding is everywhere not only in AKC. And the sooner you realize that the better off you are.
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| Monday, April 21, 2008
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Rose LaBarge
Joined:8/6/2007
Location:MOUNT MORRIS, MI
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| If a dog has been certified by OFA or Cerf you can go to their web sites and put in the dogs registration or full name and check out health clearences for your self. Each dog must be tattooed or microchipped before the tests are done and this is checked for ID to be certain itis that dog being tested. If a person doesnt know enough about their breed to know what the common health problems are and be willing to test their dog prior to breeding then they have no business breeding because there are too many unhealthy dogs already. Often the owners can not afford the expensive vet bills for these dogs and take it to the pound. If the dog is lucky the rescue group for that breed takes it and tries to provide the vet care it needs other wise it becomes one of the MILLIONS of dogs killed in dog pounds each year. Even dogs that are tested and clear of all diseases common to that breed should only be bred to other dogs with the same quality. And temperament and working ability should be more important than whether a dog won a bunch of dog shows which quite often are NOT about the quality of the dog. And to the ladyy who has a dog but wasnt given the papers on it no REPUTABLE rescue would want to have a dog used for breeding neuter your dog and enjoy him for the great pet he is.
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| Tuesday, April 22, 2008
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cool dogs
Joined:8/11/2006
Location:CADIZ, KY
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| Her it is plain and simple a dog is not ready to breed until it has had all healthtests required for its breed.It needs to be old enough to be able to make sure it has the right temperment. The age for the testing is 2 years. Now the other thing is that if you are breeding for money then have your dog neutered. Now as fo sallyduke before you start posting you really need to get your facts straight. Most of your shelter dogs are the so-called designer dogsmutts or the ones from breeders who do not offer to take a dog back for someone because they can no longer care for it or they have to move. Also the AKC does do inspections of anyone who breeds a certain amount of litters per year and let me tell you they check everything from the kennels dogs all vet papers sells contracts breeding records and they do impose strict fies for violations
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| Sunday, April 27, 2008
at10:40:59 AM
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Mayhem Westies
Joined:4/27/2008
Location:ROME, OH
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| I have used my 14 mo old Westie he is an UKC CH and working on his AKC with a friends very well bred older girl. she was about to loose that bloodline had tried older boys with no luck. we both know the ancestors of these dogs and know the health issues in both lines. we had 6 puppies 3 of which are starting their show carrers next week . I dont normally use a boy this young but I have had 5 gen behind him so was comfortable with what he would throw. our big problem is retained testicles which is not IMHO a worrisome health issue but of course the 1 show pick had this so he is in a pet home. IMHO breeding just because you have 2 dogs is being irresponsible you need to do your research on the health problems for those breeds and screen for those and get people lined up for those babies before you breed.
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| Saturday, May 31, 2008
at3:14:54 PM
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lakotackrs
Joined:5/30/2008
Location:QUEEN CREEK, AZ
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| Sallyduke88 I found your posts to be very very nieve My dogs are AKC registered and are shown to their Championships. I cant get even HALF of what a DESIGNER breed gets so how is it that we are so impressed by AKC???? These designer dogs are usually registered by APR or whatever... there are numerous amounts of new registries Im a small hobby breeder I belong to my breed parent club and feel I have as much input to our standard as anybody else. AKC bases their standards on what the parent club has dictated to them. AKC without seeing the dogs odviously cant warrent their quality AKC papers or any other registries papers dont impress me if the dog has no breed TYPE
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| Thursday, July 10, 2008
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hsosa
Joined:7/10/2008
Location:RIVERSIDE, CA
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| We breed english bulldogs and we waited for 2yrs before we studded male bully.
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| Tuesday, August 05, 2008
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jkiehn
Joined:6/22/2008
Location:MARYSVILLE, CA
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| As a breeder of German Shepherd Dogs with nearly 30 years of experience I can tell you that it is better to wait until the dog is closer to two before studding him out. As the dog gets older you will have a better idea of temperament the size of the dog the showing ability or working ability and you will be able to test for more health problems especially hips and elbows. Before you decide to stud your dog out you should take a hard look at your dog to see how he measures up against the standard for your breed. Then decide what your dog will offer. Why is it that you want to breed him? Will he imporve the breed? Take your dog to some shows to see how he measures up against others of your breed. If your dog is a working dog join a club and get some working titles on your dog before you attempt to breed. Remember that the majority of breeders do not make a fortune from breeding. Most of us have a job that pays the bills and consider the breeding aspect of our lives a very expensive hobby.
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| Saturday, January 17, 2009
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SallyDuke88
Joined:3/12/2008
Location:MEDFORD, OR
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| Havent been on inawihile boy people sure get defensive when someone else has an opinion different than their own. Someone mention that AKC is changing their breeding policies that is BS. They have not changed a thing Someone also said that they regulate the number of litters a person can have which is also BS. As long as that person gets a permit they can have as many as they want. Someone said that AKC inspects kennels but do they ever inspect a persons basement? I dont doubt that some AKC personnel care but they sure appear to not care enough to increase regulations. I never said AKC is the only bad registry they ALL need to improve their regulations. What I said was that people swear by AKC that its the greatest kennel club and are ignorant of all the unethical breeders who use AKC papers as a way to increase the value of their dog rather than the actual health mental well-being and standard of the dog. You cannot prove your dog is breedable just because it has a show title. Someone admitted to me that they showed and championed a male great dane that had seizures regularly. After being used for stud mulitple times this dane was diagnosed with wobblers. AKC ALLOWS unhealthy dogs to not only be shown in the ring but also to sire litters of pups that have a very good chance of coming down with illnesses.
For someone to call ME neive yet be ignorant to all the distasteful things that AKC promotes is just sickening. AKC is NO BETTER than any other registry here in the united states when it comes to a dogs health OR mental well-being.
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| Thursday, July 30, 2009
at7:21:45 PM
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ZGSD
Joined:7/30/2009
Location:CAVE CREEK, AZ
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| A stud dog has to be of value to the Breed. He needs to be titled and proven, just because he is of good pedigree does not mean that he is a good dog. Focus on titling your dog, make him a champion first and then stud him out. You might think he is the most handsome male out there, but so does every other owner. Dont set yourself up for disappointments
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| Wednesday, March 03, 2010
at9:22:28 PM
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dustycourtney
Joined:8/6/2009
Location:FINDLAY, OH
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| i have a 11 mo old eng mastiff and he was evaluated by the vet and cleared for stud service.... i think it just depends on the breeder....my dog is very well taken care of and healthy.....the ofa testing cant be done until 2 years thats why people say what they do.... my dog is more than ready his dad was 12 mo old and had a litter of 12 and then one of 13 so it goes from dog to dog
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| Saturday, March 06, 2010
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sjbo659
Joined:12/6/2009
Location:WASILLA, AK
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First off I think your male should be no younger then a year and preferably closer to 2 before you breed him. I will do a Penn hip at a year as a preliminary to make the decision to breed or wait for my male. I also so do eyes, heart, thyroid, and patella at a year to make sure my dogs are sound. Depending on these results I then weigh what my male has to offer prior to being OFAd at two. If my male is proving himself in the ring and has the right temerment and structure then I will consider breeding prior to two but older then one. My current male falls into that catagory. All tests I have done so far have been positive, he has won Best of Breed 4 out of 5 times and is close to his Championship at 14 months of age. My best advice is to be honest in your evaluation of your own male then preceed with great care in choseing the bitches that will complement what he has to offer. I go back 5 generations before I will even consider a bitch and if I cannot then I will not stud out my males. Any reputable breeder is aware of lines within thier breed they need to stay clear of so research, and more research should also be a part of whether you stud your male or not.
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| Saturday, March 06, 2010
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dustycourtney
Joined:8/6/2009
Location:FINDLAY, OH
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| first of all everyone is different, i personally dont agree with dog shows, my dog comes from champion lines but to me its all about who you know and how many dogs you show, if i show 12 and you show 1 im giving them more money than you and of course i will be favored my dog isnt doing anything until he has all his prelims @ 1 year and he already was negative for cynsthria good eyes and is show quality. i know what im doing ive grown up from a dog breeding family and with dog shows..... i could care less if the bith i pick has ev er been in a ring before...i want healty good tempered dogs that are great with kids and other pets.... your opinion is your opinion but you dont own mastiffs..... i have taken the precautions to make sure my dog is healty to breed and hes also been examined by the vet and had his semen counted and cleared for stus service but i will be getting all his pre limbs when possible.
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| Saturday, March 06, 2010
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sjbo659
Joined:12/6/2009
Location:WASILLA, AK
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| Dusty, I was just answering the question as was everyone else. I do not own Mastiffs, your right but I have been around them when I train my dogs in show classes. Up here where I live they seem to belong to one person and he basically shows against himself most of the time but has enough that he can finsih them. Remember breeding is about bettering your breed whether its Bouviers or Mastiffs. Researching the bitch is as important as your male is in the breeding. A careful breeder knows this. Unless your just wanting to make money with your male then I assume you dont care one way or the other. Personally I try hard to be responsible and have on many occasions had to spay or neuther a dog that I found was not 100. Sometimes being objective with your own dogs can be very hard to do but then you have to ask yourself two simple questions. 1. why do I want to breed my male and 2. what will my male offer to the gene pool. These are simple yet hard questions to answer and being honest in your assesments can be difficult sometimes especially if you need money. If thats the case then breeding is really the wrong way to go becuase you might chooses unwisely a bitch and in the end you have a mess on your hands you did not want. I appologise if I seemed to offend you becuase I had no intention of doing so.
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| Saturday, March 06, 2010
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dustycourtney
Joined:8/6/2009
Location:FINDLAY, OH
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| no you didnt offend me, i do agree with some of what you say but to me dog shows are a joke. i grew up with them and would never participate myself. and im definately not in it for the money....i have money, if you start breeding for the money youll be broke.... its not a get rich quick business. my male has great qualities, excellent temperment ,good eyes, good semen, and will be evaluated thru the ofa standards, i am vey choosey with the females ive picke di have 3 scheduled breedings that ive clearly investigated and had over 30 phone calls, i will not brred with just anyone, their female must be in great health as well as be very loving and great looking.
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| Friday, February 04, 2011
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116ahcops
Joined:2/4/2011
Location:FOUNTAIN VALLEY, CA
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The male can be bred offered at stud any time the testicles descend, but the owner of the bitch should demand some testing or some information of the pedigree, as to the health vitality of the ancestors of this dog. Having AKC registration does prove that the animal is related to a line of other AKC registered purebred animals. phonetically the animal may look like the breed it is claimed to be, but if it is not a purebred, the offspring may show the other breed in the form of an odd looking pup.
AKC paperwork usually proves genotype or the true linage of the animal. A female should be 2 or more, but the male could provide healthy, productive offspring anytime after 1 year to 18 months, depending on the breed, other conditions.
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| Friday, April 08, 2011
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saleen280
Joined:4/8/2011
Location:ORANGE COUNTY, CA
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Thinking of using my yorkie as a stud, Ill probably wait until he is 2 years old just to make sure he meets the standards...
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| Sunday, May 08, 2011
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vontief
Joined:6/3/2009
Location:PESHTIGO, WI
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| i would not stud my stud till atleast close to 2 years and his hips/elbow to cert. as breeders we need to be more respondable on who we breed our stud too.
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